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@  grahamuk : (20 August 2018 - 12:08 PM)

... and the electric still needs paying.

@  grahamuk : (20 August 2018 - 12:07 PM)

She'll text back after discovering her b/f drunk and incapable AGAIN.

@  Mentalist : (20 August 2018 - 11:43 AM)

Girl I've got on facebook just said "how much you pay?" I responded "2000 babe" and then the phone went silent

@  grahamuk : (20 August 2018 - 08:01 AM)

Yep, I'd trust an LG too.

@  richie155 : (20 August 2018 - 07:20 AM)

yup, my friend fixed his for less than 10 euros... i'm sticking with LG from now on... 1st gen 37"LG flat screen lasted for 15 years and still works, replaced it to get FullHD/4k

@  grahamuk : (20 August 2018 - 06:16 AM)

The fix cost peanuts, was well-publicised and could easily be done yourself if you can use a soldering iron. After 11 years I'd defo buy another. Ferraris break too sometimes.

@  richie155 : (20 August 2018 - 05:10 AM)

I had a Simsung with capacitor problems too, never Simsung again for me. On purpose they use too weak capacitors. Too bad the TV's started to break during the warranty period many times. I'm affraid it's not just them who on purpose design such flaws to their products.

@  grahamuk : (20 August 2018 - 04:45 AM)

It was capacitors on mine. A well-known failure apparently. Makes TV take forever to start. The parts are cheap.

@  grahamuk : (20 August 2018 - 04:43 AM)

Samsungs are damned good TVs. Well worth getting fixed properly, as I did with mine after 8 years reliable use. Still going strong now, after another 3. The fix cost £90 in UK.... and that was a home visit.

@  Biggles : (20 August 2018 - 04:05 AM)

Well its a Samsung Smart TV so not cheap, worth repairing if I can get a reliable fix. It turns itself off when hot, ok when it cools down, for about 20 mins then off again.

@  lazybugger : (20 August 2018 - 03:22 AM)

First thing I had to do was open it and repair it!!! Haha

@  lazybugger : (20 August 2018 - 03:22 AM)

just bought a LED TV fron Lazada, delivered today, for P1,988

@  Sandman!... : (20 August 2018 - 01:04 AM)

statusquo we did one for Duke for his Classic pictures....we shall talk when i get home...

@  Sandman!... : (20 August 2018 - 01:02 AM)

Kadachiman there is a repair shop next to Queens Hotel for air cons you can check there...

@  Sandman!... : (20 August 2018 - 01:01 AM)

Actually i use the computer at my hotel if i had a laptop i would be on it too much that is why oi don't post pictures till i get home

@  stew : (19 August 2018 - 01:57 PM)

some will replace original parts with cheap copy

@  bill44ca : (19 August 2018 - 01:53 PM)

I too would not waste time repairing a TV or Computer unless it was a very expensive one here. But I don't know MacGuyver

@  Biggles : (19 August 2018 - 11:18 AM)

Yes, I had the same thought but a recommendation helps. Dont think it is a major problem.

@  Kadachiman : (19 August 2018 - 09:46 AM)

I have had 3 different companies take 5 attempts to fix my aircond (leaking gas)...still no luck. This and other items that I needed 'repaired' has led me to the conclusion that the skills are not available to fix anything, so better to throw it away and buy new

@  scuba539 : (19 August 2018 - 08:35 AM)

Saw an ad in the Blue Book for ACT TV Repair shop...09178315689...Never used them but claim to have been in Biz since 1981



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#1 OFFLINE   matt66

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Posted 29 July 2018 - 09:03 PM

Hi everyone,

 

My wife (Filipina) and I currently live in Canada and we plan to relocate to Manila in the future. So we would like to start applying for my residence visa.

 

I try finding some info online but haven't found some clear guidelines on this. If anyone has been through the same process, I would appreciate them sharing their knowledge.

 

- Can we apply for permanent residence from abroad?

- How long does the whole process take, from submission of all required documents to decision by immigration?

- Are there any obligations to keep your residence visa in the Philippines (such as you have to live 3 years out of 5 to keep your PR, or others..)?

 

Thanks in advance

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Posted 29 July 2018 - 10:10 PM

Don't be in a hurry to get the RV.  You can get free Balikbayan visa's that last 12 months if you arrive in Manila with your wife. JMHO.

Also don't buy a house yet either, rent 1st.


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 11:44 PM

I took my GF of three years fro Phil's to Australia on a 3 month tourist visa. Before leaving Phil's, I obtained all necessary documentation required by Australian immigration to process a permanent resident visa towards the end of her tourist visa while in Australia (on shore). This was done by my agency in the Phil's. My GF is currently on a bridging visa A in Australia, waiting approval.

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 12:28 AM

I took my GF of three years fro Phil's to Australia on a 3 month tourist visa. Before leaving Phil's, I obtained all necessary documentation required by Australian immigration to process a permanent resident visa towards the end of her tourist visa while in Australia (on shore). This was done by my agency in the Phil's. My GF is currently on a bridging visa A in Australia, waiting approval.

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This has nothing to do with the OP's question.

 

He is asking about the Philippines 13A visa... for foreigner to remain as a permanent resident.

 

I'd suggest  the OP firstly peruses the PI Bureau of Immigration website... and also searches out some expat forums where others can advise from their own experiences of applying.


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 01:59 AM

Hi everyone,

 

My wife (Filipina) and I currently live in Canada and we plan to relocate to Manila in the future. So we would like to start applying for my residence visa.

 

I try finding some info online but haven't found some clear guidelines on this. If anyone has been through the same process, I would appreciate them sharing their knowledge.

 

- Can we apply for permanent residence from abroad?

- How long does the whole process take, from submission of all required documents to decision by immigration?

- Are there any obligations to keep your residence visa in the Philippines (such as you have to live 3 years out of 5 to keep your PR, or others..)?

 

Thanks in advance

matt

I personally wouldn't bother in advance either. Or maybe not at all.

 

If you plan to stay permanently and never leave, by all means get the 13a.

 

Be aware though that with a 13a visa, every time you depart the Philippines you have to pay the travel tax.

 

If you plan to come and go at least once a year, you can just get the free 1 year balikbayan entry each visit. 

 

For Balikbayans, so long as you enter the Philippines at the same time as your Philippines born wife. No onward ticket required. No visa required. No visa extensions to pay for. No ACR-I card after 59 days No emigration clearance certificate after 6 months. No travel tax on a Canadian passport if you stay less than a year. Nothing to pay what so ever, just so long as you leave before the year is up. You then go for a shopping trip to Hong Kong, a holiday in Cambodia or a trip back home, then return and start the year over again. On entry, while still at the immigration counter, confirm you have a Balikbayan entry by checking your passport. It should be stamped or hand written with a departure date a year from arrival and letters BB or similar. 

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 02:13 AM

Don't be in a hurry to get the RV.  You can get free Balikbayan visa's that last 12 months if you arrive in Manila with your wife. JMHO.

Also don't buy a house yet either, rent 1st.

 

Hi Bendy

 

Thanks for that, I didn't know about this visa. That could help for sure, while waiting to receive the permanent residence.

 

Can you work with a Balikbayan visa though?


 

I personally wouldn't bother in advance either. Or maybe not at all.

 

If you plan to stay permanently and never leave, by all means get the 13a.

 

Be aware though that with a 13a visa, every time you depart the Philippines you have to pay the travel tax.

 

If you plan to come and go at least once a year, you can just get the free 1 year balikbayan entry each visit. 

 

For Balikbayans, so long as you enter the Philippines at the same time as your Philippines born wife. No onward ticket required. No visa required. No visa extensions to pay for. No ACR-I card after 59 days No emigration clearance certificate after 6 months. No travel tax on a Canadian passport if you stay less than a year. Nothing to pay what so ever, just so long as you leave before the year is up. You then go for a shopping trip to Hong Kong, a holiday in Cambodia or a trip back home, then return and start the year over again. On entry, while still at the immigration counter, confirm you have a Balikbayan entry by checking your passport. It should be stamped or hand written with a departure date a year from arrival and letters BB or similar. 

 

Thank you for all the details.

 

Yes we plan to settle there for a while but this Balikbayan visa looks like a great immediate/available option.

 

I'll look into it, I did a quick search and it looks like we can't work legally with this visa though - but I might be wrong and I need to dig deeper.



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Posted 30 July 2018 - 02:16 AM

No, you can't work with only a Balikbayan stamp... or be involved in a business (It's not a visa, it's termed a 'privilege') .

 

I believe you can at least run a business with a 13A . 

 

(I have a Balikbayan stamp, and am also considering going the 13A route) .


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 02:50 AM

No, you can't work with only a Balikbayan stamp... or be involved in a business (It's not a visa, it's termed a 'privilege') .

 

I believe you can at least run a business with a 13A . 

 

(I have a Balikbayan stamp, and am also considering going the 13A route) .

 

 

Thanks for clarifying. So I guess my only option is the 13A route too, as expected.

 

Do you know roughly how long the process is to get it?



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Posted 30 July 2018 - 03:27 AM

There is the initial document-gathering, followed by an appointment at Immigration ... followed by (hopefully being granted) an initial 12 month probationary 13A, IF you are in the Phils at the time... and so it goes on from there. I won't try to give any further advice on something I'm no expert on.

 

It's not a huge deal. Cost I think is 15-20,000 pesos all in. 

 

Anyway, as per my previous suggestion, the expat forums are usually a good source of info from experienced people,  



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Posted 30 July 2018 - 04:26 AM

Here's a comprehensive account of somebody applying for their first 12 month probationary 13A in 2016....

 

May give you some clues O.P.  :)

 

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'So here is the most "scary" part if a foreigner wants to settle down in the Philippines. The 13a visa Application or the Non-Quota Immigrant visa by Marriage (Probationary). We are done with the process in just half a day that normally takes weeks. More to that later. So let me discuss first the requirements.
 
First, provide two legal size folders with fastener. You have to fasten all the documents. Yes, even the original ones, because they will get them.
 
The documents SHOULD BE IN THE PROPER ORDER, to avoid delays. For the first folder compile the following: 
 
Joint Letter addressed to the Commissioner from the applicant and the petitioning spouse
 
According to Instruction #4, "All sworn statements or affidavits must be original and duly notarized". I advised to notarised your letter a day prior to your actual date of application. The notarization cost us Php 300.00 for four copies. All you need is just one copy though. Here's the joint letter that we have submitted.
 
July 21, 2016
 
The Honorable Commissioner Jaime H. Morente
2nd Floor, Bureau of Immigration Bldg.
Magallanes Drive, Intramuros Manila
 
Dear Commissioner:
 
May I respectfully request a Non-Quota Immigrant visa under Section 13, Paragraph A of the Philippine Immigrant Act as amended, in favor of my foreign spouse (name of spouse), a British National. I am (name of the Filipino spouse), a Philippine Citizen. We were married in (place of marriage) on May 30, 2016.
 
I am enclosing here, copies of the following documents to prove my above-cited information:
My NSO-Issued Birth Certificate
Our NSO-Issued Marriage Certificate
Photocopy of the pertinent pages of his passport.
a. Bio-Page
b. Page/s showing:
1. His immigration admission and its extension/s.
 
Sincerely,
 
(Name of the Filipino Spouse)
Petitioner/Filipino Spouse
Address:
 
(Name of the British Spouse)
Applicant/British National
 
You have to sign it above your name in front of the lawyer.
 
Duly accomplished CGAF (BI Form 2014-00-001 Rev 0)
 
I advised you to download this form from their website, instead of filling it out there. It will save you more time. Kindly write legibly. And use CAPITAL LETTERS and English Characters. And black ink. Letters like ñ, é, ü, and ç are not recognised by system. Use n, e, u, and c. Write N/A, if ever the information is not applicable. This form must be accomplished in two original copies. One for the 13A visa Application and the other one is for the ACR I-Card.
 
Marriage Certificate/Contract
 
Must be original and NSO Issued copy.
 
Birth Certificate or Certified True Copy of BI Issued Identification Certificate as Filipino Citizen of the Filipino Spouse
 
Just like the marriage certificate, the Filipino spouse's birth certificate must be original and NSO Issued. Instruction #5 stated that "All civil registry documents issued in the Philippines (i.e. Birth Certificate, Marriage Certificate, Death Certificate, etc) must be original and issued by the Nations Statistics Office of the Philippines (NSO)"
 
Photocopy of the Filipino spouse's valid government issued ID (i.e Passport, SSS/GSIS ID/PRC ID, Driver's Licence, TIN or Voter's ID)
 
I photocopied both of my postal ID and PhilHealth ID. Front and back.
 
Photocopy of passport bio-page and latest admission with valid authorised stay
 
Take note that you are allowed to apply for 13a visa at least 3 weeks prior the expiration of your authorised stay
 
Valid National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance, or National Intelligence Coordinating Agency (NICA), if the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for 6 months or more from the date of the latest arrival.
 
Please remember that only NBI Main Office is allowed to administer NBI Clearance for the foreigners. 
 
BI Clearance Certificate
 
You can get it upon your application.
 
For the second folder, compile the following:
Your second duly accomplished CGAF
Photocopy of the passport, bio page and the latest admission and extensions
Official Receipt that will be automatically filed to your folder.
So we are done now with the required documents. Let me go through to the process.
 
I left my ID first to the entrance lobby. And went straight to the Public Assistance Information Unit. The lady there checked our documents, once she was satisfied, she listed my husband's name and told us to wait. After a couple of minutes, we've been called. The evaluator assessed our papers. It was a very casual interview but still we are very careful with everything we said. I noticed whilst he was asking us some questions, he was bending his passport, and checking each pages of it. He only asked us basic questions. When he found out that we traveled for almost 10 hours just to get there, he suggested that we can request for an early hearing on that same day for Php 1,000.00. So we agreed we better do that than going back and forth, where it cost us alot. After he signed our papers, we were directed to Window 25 - Central Receiving Unit and the officer there checked once again our paper and signed it. We proceed to Window 26 - Central Receiving Unit for the assessment of our payment. And some certificates. And we were directed to Window 12 - Cashier and paid Php 10,978.00. We photocopied our receipt outside. In the receipt, there were two dates there wherein he us designated to present himself. You have to choose between those two. You don't have to commit right there and then. But you should be on time on your scheduled and chosen date, otherwise you will repeat the whole process again. And we then made a request letter for considering our situation for an early hearing. There's no need to notarise it. With this, I cannot guarantee you that you will be allowed to do this, however our reason was valid. We wrote a letter once again addressed to the Commissioner thru Attorney Henry B. Tubban (we were advised to write Atty. Tubban's name, so maybe it still depends on your hearing officer)
 
July 22, 2016
 
The Honorable Commissioner Jaime H. Morente
2nd Floor, Bureau of Immigration Bldg. 
Magallanes Drive, Intramural Manila
 
Thru: Atty. Henry B. Tubban
 
Dear Sir:
 
May we respectfully request an early hearing for my 13a visa Application due to the distance traveled from Quezon Province, our place of residence.
 
Hoping for your favorable judgment. Thank you.
 
Very truly yours,
 
(name of applicant)
Applicant
 
(name of Filipino spouse)
Petitioner/Filipino spouse
 
We then signed it and went to the 4th floor and submitted it to Room 424 for approval. After few minutes of waiting, they approved it. And attached a small paper with an instruction on which window where heading next. But then we first went to Window 20, and gave us an information sheet that we filled out. We photocopied our request letter. And proceeded to Window 39 for the assessment of payment. He gave us a small sheet of paper again, an order of payment I assumed, wrote down his information and on the transaction type, we put "early hearing". We once again proceed to Window 12 to pay an extra thousand. We went back to Window 20 to submit everything we have. The lady there told us to wait until 10.15 am. It was only 9.30am and we decided to go to the 4th floor. Whilst waiting, we were asking each other some possible questions that the lawyer might ask. Around 10.15am, we went back to Room 424, but told us to wait again for couple of minutes. After 15 minutes, we were called. When we went inside, our folders are already on the lawyer's possession. To our surprised, the lawyer didn't ask us anything. The questions we were expecting to be asked. He just asked me about his nationality. When and where did we get married, and that's it! He explained to us the procedures we're about to do next after the hearing. He asked us to sign two documents. First document was when he wrote down all the information we were giving below the certificate. Whilst the second was most likely the terms and conditions of our application. He then wrote on a piece of paper, that the hearing has been implemented. He gave us the second folder. We then proceed to the separate counter near the entrance/lobby to get a number for photo capturing/biometrics. And lastly, we went to Window 44. We waited for his number to appear on the screen. And he then proceed to the designated window, gave the second folder, and signed on the logbook and proceed with the biometrics. And gave us a stub from the form he filled out. And he's done!
 
He's estimated date for the approval of his application is this coming September 5, 2016. Meaning he still has to pay -hopefully for kney last time- for his tourist visa extension. Just remember as long as the application isn't approved yet, you still have to buy your time in the country until you will see your name on their agenda verification section.
 
I just want to clear something though. Those foreigners who live in the country for not more than 6 months, you DON'T need to have a police clearance from your home country. 2x2 Pictures with white background aren't needed anymore. Do NOT stress out yourself with your financial capacity. It isn't an issue. As long as you can pay then I guess you're good. Remember tourist visa holder isn't allowed to work in the country. So as an additional documents and even though they aren't needed, I tried to bring a bank statement of my savings, and even a certificate of employment.
 
Piece of my unsolicited advice: You should plan ahead of time. Ready your documents. Notarised what needs to be notarised. Authenticate what needs to be authenticated, let's say you have foreign documents with you, and it happened that document is one of the requirements, go have it red ribboned first to DFA. 
 
Do not stressed yourself out with the instructions on their website. I am not saying that do not take them seriously, but sometimes their instructions can be confusing. And sometimes whenever we tried to ask them questions, we always get mixed answers. 
 
But overall, the application isn't onerous at all. All you need to have is effort, time, and enough money to support this application.
 
 
 
 
We usually do his extension at the satellite office at SM North. We still have to pay -hopefully for one last time- this coming August. :( because his estimated approval is this coming September 5. So I don't know if we'll know the result earlier than expected. :(
 
One thing I asked them years ago, is if he's allowed to have a job once he get his probationary visa. At the satellite office, they said yes, but it depends on his employer. At the main office, the guy from the legal department we need to get a certificate from DOLE. So once again, another mixed answer from them. :(
 
So we're just wishing that his application will be approved. 
 

 

 


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 06:08 AM

A good friend of mine obtained his 13A visa from the Philippine Embassy in London, it took around 3 months, and several visits (told to come back a couple of times when he had appointments which is expensive at £50 a return peak time rail ticket).  All details how and cost are on line.

 

You need the 13A if you want to work in the Philippines, but you can have a business on a Balikbayan visa with the business in your wife's name.

 

You cannot own land, but you can own the leasehold.

 

Hope that helps.


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 07:29 AM

Did my 13 series visa in Canada. Download the information from the Consulate in Vancouver and follow it. I had the visa back 10 days after sending the completed package (with all required forms). There is no probation, but you do have a day or 2 in Manila when you first arrive for processing.

It really was painless and quick to get the visa in Canada. Much less BS than doing it here in the Philippines.

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 07:36 AM

Presumably these were recent experiences ?

 

We all know how rules can change quickly, and often vary in their interpretation and enforcement, even between immigration branches and embassies.



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Posted 30 July 2018 - 08:55 AM

Hi Bendy

 

Thanks for that, I didn't know about this visa. That could help for sure, while waiting to receive the permanent residence.

 

Can you work with a Balikbayan visa though?


Thank you for all the details.

 

Yes we plan to settle there for a while but this Balikbayan visa looks like a great immediate/available option.

 

I'll look into it, I did a quick search and it looks like we can't work legally with this visa though - but I might be wrong and I need to dig deeper.

if you do decide to work, make sure it is with a foreigner company paying better than Filipino wages. 

 

 

If you have a business that employs more than 10 Filipinos, you can get one foreigner work visa for every 10 Filipinos employed. So if there is a call center employing 50 Filipinos, they can provide 5 work visas for foreigners. 

 

Regardless, if you don't have a work visa, it is a good excuse not to work. Your wife can have a business. You just help out, carting stock around or some similar gopher type job.  


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 01:17 PM

 

Can you work with a Balikbayan visa though.......... it looks like we can't work legally with this visa though.........

If you live within reasonable commute distance from the Philippine Embassy or one of the consulates then recommend starting the process there - check the Embassy website for instructions & forms. Also check for outreach programs that might be scheduled for your area as the consulates often schedule team trips to cities within their area of regional coverage which have a Filipino population. Previous posters also recommended this. Of those I know who have completed this process both in the Philippines and in the USA (Los Angeles & San Francisco Consulates) those who began the process in the USA had a much easier time from a customer service & time management point of view and no need of getting fixers, lawyers or agencies involved.

 

Your questions concerning "legally working" in the Philippines seems to be an important issue. Two reasons to want to work in the Philippines:

 

1. You have plenty of income (retirement & investment) which will support your desired lifestyle in Manila and you just want to be able to work to give yourself something to do.

2. I need to work to earn money to support myself and meeting other financial obligations while residing in Manila.

 

If you have enough retirement/investment income and just want to have something to do then congratulations as your probability of having a happy life in Manila has just gone way up. If you need to work to earn money to support yourself then you must recognize that achieving a happy life in Manila has just become very complicated. Several threads on the board concerning running a business or finding decent employment in the Philippines and suggest that you review them and get some idea of what you will be getting yourself into. There are a few who manage to do well enough to get by but for each one making it there are many who have either given up or wish they had taken a different path.

 

Good Luck.


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 04:06 PM


Edited by Terilowski, 30 July 2018 - 04:22 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 11:19 PM

A big thank you everyone, sincerely appreciate you all sharing information you have on hand.

 

Couldn't find the instructions/forms on the Consulate of Toronto website, so I will visit them in the week.

 

Again thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

matt


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 01:10 AM

Presumably these were recent experiences ?
 
We all know how rules can change quickly, and often vary in their interpretation and enforcement, even between immigration branches and embassies.


I applied and received my visa in 2012. May have changed a bit, but it was definitely easier to do in Canada than in the Philippines.

#19 OFFLINE   Terilowski

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 01:30 AM

I applied and received my visa in 2012. May have changed a bit, but it was definitely easier to do in Canada than in the Philippines.

  It's still the same. Download the form(s), get a medical, get a police clearance, get 4 signed pictures 2X2, add a copy of your spouses birth certificate or passport and your marriage certificate. Pay $202. 


Edited by Terilowski, 31 July 2018 - 01:32 AM.

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#20 OFFLINE   JerryK52

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 01:41 AM

A big thank you everyone, sincerely appreciate you all sharing information you have on hand.

 

Couldn't find the instructions/forms on the Consulate of Toronto website, so I will visit them in the week.

 

Again thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

matt

 

You can check the Philippine consulate in San Francisco website as they still include information for Non-quota Immigrant visas, requirements for Canadian citizens should be very similar. Will give you some heads up on what you need to provide for meeting the requirements and form up any questions you might have making your trip to the Toronto consulate more productive. Also, if your Filipina spouse has become a Canadian Citizen then check into the dual citizenship program available for her so if you do relocate then she can hold both Philippine and Canadian Passports which can be of great benefit under certain circumstances.


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 02:02 AM

New Requirements for 13a Permanent visa - Philippines Plus

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