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@  ₱20 Bill : (25 May 2018 - 02:01 PM)

@bill44ca @kantutero Idk, re Subic... You're right it's not a 24x7 smorgasbord, but it has a mellow sweetness that is not without a special charm for me. I haven't been in a year, maybe because I was seeking the former, but I'd still like to go back to BB again.

@  bill44ca : (25 May 2018 - 01:08 PM)

that was the quote of the month

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@ kantutero : (23 May 2018 - 12:23 PM)
If you want a large variety of girls, AC; if you want to get the leftovers from a local crew of expats that grab any new talent at the handful of dumpy bars they have in BB, then you'll love Subic (and be hailed as a conquering hero on the other board LOL)

@  Kadachiman : (25 May 2018 - 12:33 PM)

just watched?

@  samthedog : (25 May 2018 - 10:40 AM)

billiard rule that's meant to say

@  samthedog : (25 May 2018 - 10:40 AM)

watched a great big guy really shouting and intimidating a a very small girl in twenty tenty bar baretto last night because she had a different rule to him. she was well pissed and he scared her shitless. bet he feels more like a man now

@  Gago Mike : (24 May 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The new Solo movie is on Terrarium for all u Star Wars people

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:48 PM)

I don’t think the wife & daughter are too high on the mongering trips (to be frank) but I think this one I’m broadcasting. Exactly what is the harm if I buy some upland catfish farm in Thailand? What’s the sense of getting bogged down in one area?

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:42 PM)

Just a trip to BKK/Patts & MNL/AC. Could say I’m visiting ex-military friends. I’m not but on Phils side, I could just say wonder why so many soldiers & sailers retire I’m PI?

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:38 PM)

OMG! Just got the best idea for a huge worldwide windup/advanced 1st tier level trolling on Twitter & Facebook...trip in Asia to al the most sordid places but Gee, I hope I don’t run into the wrong sorts of people!

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:15 PM)

Simple Q. Might be worth a thread. A guy wants or needs to buy some land. Thai or Phils? Willing to shack up/get married. Fish farm, carabao, rice, pineapples,whatever. Where is best?

@  bill44ca : (24 May 2018 - 01:46 AM)

@Kant Handful of Dumpy Bars is funny, perhaps Tee Shirts with that above Subic Pic LOL

@  grahamuk : (23 May 2018 - 10:05 PM)

When she's down to one a day ?

@  JPDIII : (23 May 2018 - 06:23 PM)

After how many men being serviced is a girl labeled a "leftover". I don't go to AC looking for a cherry girl !

@  kantutero : (23 May 2018 - 05:23 PM)

If you want a large variety of girls, AC; if you want to get the leftovers from a local crew of expats that grab any new talent at the handful of dumpy bars they have in BB, then you'll love Subic (and be hailed as a conquering hero on the other board LOL)

@  bkk7 : (23 May 2018 - 08:27 AM)

i'm guessing then Manila/QC/Makati isn't worth it at all? BKK to PP tonight then 2 more days. can't wait!

@  stew : (23 May 2018 - 08:03 AM)

Subic retirement home for mongers

@  bill44ca : (23 May 2018 - 07:08 AM)

I agree AC hands down over Subic. If you had a couple months in AC or even a month then you might want 2 nights in Subic

@  bkk7 : (23 May 2018 - 05:57 AM)

thanks for the advice! trying to PM someone bc i just bought the discount card but am forbidden from viewing profiles or PMing

@  Kadachiman : (23 May 2018 - 05:56 AM)

you can read some trip reports on here about AC vs Subic vs other places.....and I think you will conclude that AC is the perfect destination for a 5 day trip



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#1 OFFLINE   thecyclist

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 05:59 PM

Haven't been in Angeles for a while, about 5 years ago was my last trip.What has changed?what are the going rates for drinks, lady drinks, bar fines?How easy is it nowadays to get around the expensive bar fines by arranging a sneak-out/private arrangement with the bar girls?
What is cheaper/better:Subic or Angeles?


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#2 ONLINE   Ges Stevenson

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:09 PM

Subic is maybe a little cheaper and its a nicer place to stay with the beach, id spend time in both places if i was you there only an hour away from each other

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 09:03 PM

For Angeles; BF in walking street: 2500-3000. Up towards Clarkton its a bit cheaper. Same with the small bars near the Church (where Aby Lynn & Love Knots etc was)

Also BarOne is cheaper (just down from Kokomos, towards PB/Wild Orchid)

 

LD: 170 / DLD: 300

 

Sneak outs: Not so much, most use FB and apps too hook up, its quick and easy. Or just go to HiSo after midnight and pick.

 

Subic is a bit cheaper, ok as a getaway for some nights. If you like diving its great, if you only there for the bars the place feels "small" after a few days.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:43 PM

Download the TSMAPS app. Excellent info very detailed.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:07 AM

OP why don't you search and read some threads.  All you are going to get is a couple more incorrect answers other than Kevins about the map which is good.  There are thousands of hours of threads like a library for you to read for free.  Pick a few relevant and you are set



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:42 AM

For Angeles; BF in walking street: 2500-3000. Up towards Clarkton its a bit cheaper. Same with the small bars near the Church (where Aby Lynn & Love Knots etc was)
Also BarOne is cheaper (just down from Kokomos, towards PB/Wild Orchid)

LD: 170 / DLD: 300

Sneak outs: Not so much, most use FB and apps too hook up, its quick and easy. Or just go to HiSo after midnight and pick.

Subic is a bit cheaper, ok as a getaway for some nights. If you like diving its great, if you only there for the bars the place feels "small" after a few days.


+1. Sums modern day AC up succinctly in my exerience as a visitor. Would just add Subic is similiar these days.

Just stick to FB and cut out the pimps share.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:15 AM

For Angeles; BF in walking street: 2500-3000. Up towards Clarkton its a bit cheaper. Same with the small bars near the Church (where Aby Lynn & Love Knots etc was)

Also BarOne is cheaper (just down from Kokomos, towards PB/Wild Orchid)

 

LD: 170 / DLD: 300

 

Sneak outs: Not so much, most use FB and apps too hook up, its quick and easy. Or just go to HiSo after midnight and pick.

 

Subic is a bit cheaper, ok as a getaway for some nights. If you like diving its great, if you only there for the bars the place feels "small" after a few days.

 

Actually WS and close by on Fields starts at 2200p with Soya and goes up to 3500p at Atlantis and Doll House and Crystal Palace and some of Club Ra women are 4k or more and some way over 3k at Club XS.  Many women will be ST only even for that price

 

Up toward the Clarkton is not necessarily a bit cheaper as Master Poseiden is 2700 with the required DLD of 300 on top of 2400p.  Many of the bars there and closer in in Perimeter like Det 5 have women for 2500p.  Some bars are a little less around 2k.   

 

The Santos and Raymond street bars formerly known as blow row are mainly ST bars for 1k but you may not want to see what the women look like in the daylight.

 

Subic is 2500p minimum in some of the bars now with girls quoting 3k and it is mainly ST but not all.  Many threads on all of this

 

Still both places a bargain compared to western prices so happy hunting


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:38 AM

pretty​ easy to get cheaper by using wechat or skout for free lancers or make friends with the girls in the bar. once you've made a couple of friends they introduce you to others. technically they aren't supposed to give out contact details but most will if they like you. ive had a few slip me a bit of paper in bars and said text me when i finish work. the other bonus of that if a girl slips u a paper you already know she likes you so the experience will be much better. you pay less she earns more so everyones a winner. 


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:58 AM

Download the TSMAPS app. Excellent info very detailed.

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That's what I was going to say. The guy(s) who run it do an amazing job of keeping up with the drink and bf prices. It's always up to date



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:01 AM

Download the TSMAPS app. Excellent info very detailed.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:58 PM

Not available on iPhone?


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:26 PM

Not as expensive as they could be (I'm confident bars are working on that) but not as expensive as the reasonable alternatives.
Drinksluts and sponsored girls who don't go out make it dearer than it should be.
Dld's etc in bars while you're trying to find the lucky girl make it more expensive, if you can hone your selection skills and get the picking done with minimal stops n dld's it becomes more reasonable.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:21 PM

3500 barfine for a long time is not expensive the real damage comes from the hours of barhopping and the useless ladydrinks. if you are picky like me you will have to visit multiple bars until you find a girl you like that will agree to barfine


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:49 PM

That's what I was going to say. The guy(s) who run it do an amazing job of keeping up with the drink and bf prices. It's always up to date.

 

Wrong that is a False statement.  It is Not Always up to date.  Look at the barfine price at Labamba and it says 2400p.  They raised it several months ago to 2880p when they raised the drink price to 75p at happy hour.  (before board discounts of course which the map does not mention)  I only had to look at the first page to find one that is wrong so there may well be others that are wrong as well

 

 

3500 barfine for a long time is not expensive the real damage comes from the hours of barhopping and the useless ladydrinks. if you are picky like me you will have to visit multiple bars until you find a girl you like that will agree to barfine

 

You forgot to mention that many of the times you pay the 3k or 3500p barfine after all the time and cost of ladies drinks searching then it will often still turn into ST when she gets a phone call and has  a sick relative or some other fake emergency and says so sorry sir


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:32 PM

3500 barfine for a long time is not expensive the real damage comes from the hours of barhopping and the useless ladydrinks. if you are picky like me you will have to visit multiple bars until you find a girl you like that will agree to barfine

Take a tip from our Korean brothers; walk in, look around, don't see anything you like? walk out.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:49 PM

The chase via bar hopping is half the fun (that is if you are a drinker and drinking gets you in the mood),if there weren't these overpriced lady drinks.In the good old days you got plenty of attention from the girls without buying lady drinks, and in Pattaya that is still true in many of the ST bars, but on my last visit to AC 5 years ago very few attractive chicks would sit with a customer for longer than 2 minutes without the purchase of a drink.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:50 PM

lady drink prices are way out of line. 

 

i dont let myself get too concerned with it but if you're watching trip cost, drinks will become significant if you give into a group of drink sluts.

 

think about it; three bottles of beer in a bar can cost about as much as LT sex with a freelancer.


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:55 AM

There are way too many drink sluts these days. They skull it and want more and more. Then mamasan and the ugly waitresses want to give massage and drinks.
when push comes to shove, there usually is a sick relative or emergency that she has to rush off to once she has gotten to the hotel

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:18 AM

I'm finding good prices up and down Burgos St this week. Mirrors Tickles and Bottoms have the barfine at 2100... at least that's my quote but I'm known around here so maybe different price for cherry boys. Back in March Moulin Rouge quoted 2400. Anyway I usually let the girl finish her shift and meet me afterwards.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 11:32 AM

pretty​ easy to get cheaper by using wechat or skout for free lancers or make friends with the girls in the bar. once you've made a couple of friends they introduce you to others. technically they aren't supposed to give out contact details but most will if they like you. ive had a few slip me a bit of paper in bars and said text me when i finish work. the other bonus of that if a girl slips u a paper you already know she likes you so the experience will be much better. you pay less she earns more so everyones a winner. 

Agreed, the bars can be fun and convenient, but so is social media. I've come to prefer ST -at ST prices- so its social media for me. Having said that, some social media princess can be demanding, if you tolerate that, so social media can also be hit and miss. The world economy has been doing well since 2009, so its little wonder that the bars have increased prices and drink sluts can make a living with out barfining. 

 

Also agree that the girls will pass you around to their friends, so its easy to get a few regulars for pizza delivery :) 



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Posted 22 May 2018 - 11:35 AM

I'm finding good prices up and down Burgos St this week. Mirrors Tickles and Bottoms have the barfine at 2100... at least that's my quote but I'm known around here so maybe different price for cherry boys. Back in March Moulin Rouge quoted 2400. Anyway I usually let the girl finish her shift and meet me afterwards.

 

But the differencee  there is that then the girls expect her "salary" of at least another 2000 on top of the BF

In AC its all included, excpet for excellent performance where you MAY tip 300 or 400. 



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Posted 22 May 2018 - 11:56 AM

I tip the same whether its AC or Manila. Not fussed about a few thousand pesos.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:56 PM

I tip the same whether its AC or Manila. Not fussed about a few thousand pesos.

Me too, I tip the same everywhere

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 01:05 PM

I tip the same whether its AC or Manila. Not fussed about a few thousand pesos.

 

I think your confused. On Burgos ST you pay the girl after paying the BF, far different from AC where the BF is all you pay.

 

So those great prices you claim are not great prices at all comparing them to AC because you need to pay the girl on top of the BF at least 2000 but much more with hotter girls

 

You will be all in at over 5000P with hotter girls. You might tip the same after that. 



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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:57 AM

Agreed, the bars can be fun and convenient, but so is social media. I've come to prefer ST -at ST prices- so its social media for me. Having said that, some social media princess can be demanding, if you tolerate that, so social media can also be hit and miss. The world economy has been doing well since 2009, so its little wonder that the bars have increased prices and drink sluts can make a living with out barfining. 

 

Also agree that the girls will pass you around to their friends, so its easy to get a few regulars for pizza delivery :)

strangely I'm finding a different attitude with girls in subic they are much more tight about sharing you here. it seems once you have hooked up with them once then you belong to them and they get slightly pisssed if you want to try someone else. in Bohol Cebu and ac ive not had that much at all






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