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@  ₱20 Bill : (25 May 2018 - 02:01 PM)

@bill44ca @kantutero Idk, re Subic... You're right it's not a 24x7 smorgasbord, but it has a mellow sweetness that is not without a special charm for me. I haven't been in a year, maybe because I was seeking the former, but I'd still like to go back to BB again.

@  bill44ca : (25 May 2018 - 01:08 PM)

that was the quote of the month

@  bill44ca : (25 May 2018 - 01:08 PM)

@ kantutero : (23 May 2018 - 12:23 PM)
If you want a large variety of girls, AC; if you want to get the leftovers from a local crew of expats that grab any new talent at the handful of dumpy bars they have in BB, then you'll love Subic (and be hailed as a conquering hero on the other board LOL)

@  Kadachiman : (25 May 2018 - 12:33 PM)

just watched?

@  samthedog : (25 May 2018 - 10:40 AM)

billiard rule that's meant to say

@  samthedog : (25 May 2018 - 10:40 AM)

watched a great big guy really shouting and intimidating a a very small girl in twenty tenty bar baretto last night because she had a different rule to him. she was well pissed and he scared her shitless. bet he feels more like a man now

@  Gago Mike : (24 May 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The new Solo movie is on Terrarium for all u Star Wars people

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:48 PM)

I don’t think the wife & daughter are too high on the mongering trips (to be frank) but I think this one I’m broadcasting. Exactly what is the harm if I buy some upland catfish farm in Thailand? What’s the sense of getting bogged down in one area?

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:42 PM)

Just a trip to BKK/Patts & MNL/AC. Could say I’m visiting ex-military friends. I’m not but on Phils side, I could just say wonder why so many soldiers & sailers retire I’m PI?

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:38 PM)

OMG! Just got the best idea for a huge worldwide windup/advanced 1st tier level trolling on Twitter & Facebook...trip in Asia to al the most sordid places but Gee, I hope I don’t run into the wrong sorts of people!

@  Red Horse : (24 May 2018 - 01:15 PM)

Simple Q. Might be worth a thread. A guy wants or needs to buy some land. Thai or Phils? Willing to shack up/get married. Fish farm, carabao, rice, pineapples,whatever. Where is best?

@  bill44ca : (24 May 2018 - 01:46 AM)

@Kant Handful of Dumpy Bars is funny, perhaps Tee Shirts with that above Subic Pic LOL

@  grahamuk : (23 May 2018 - 10:05 PM)

When she's down to one a day ?

@  JPDIII : (23 May 2018 - 06:23 PM)

After how many men being serviced is a girl labeled a "leftover". I don't go to AC looking for a cherry girl !

@  kantutero : (23 May 2018 - 05:23 PM)

If you want a large variety of girls, AC; if you want to get the leftovers from a local crew of expats that grab any new talent at the handful of dumpy bars they have in BB, then you'll love Subic (and be hailed as a conquering hero on the other board LOL)

@  bkk7 : (23 May 2018 - 08:27 AM)

i'm guessing then Manila/QC/Makati isn't worth it at all? BKK to PP tonight then 2 more days. can't wait!

@  stew : (23 May 2018 - 08:03 AM)

Subic retirement home for mongers

@  bill44ca : (23 May 2018 - 07:08 AM)

I agree AC hands down over Subic. If you had a couple months in AC or even a month then you might want 2 nights in Subic

@  bkk7 : (23 May 2018 - 05:57 AM)

thanks for the advice! trying to PM someone bc i just bought the discount card but am forbidden from viewing profiles or PMing

@  Kadachiman : (23 May 2018 - 05:56 AM)

you can read some trip reports on here about AC vs Subic vs other places.....and I think you will conclude that AC is the perfect destination for a 5 day trip



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#1 OFFLINE   tbrenn

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 07:03 AM

I find this quite a difficult question to answer (Im filling in the online form for her) as she has no job, house, bank account...you know...virtually nothing. She looks after her mother...that's about it. Of course we have to make the relevant immigration authorities believe that she is going to return home. Regardless of the fact my ass is on the line because i am the supporting sponsor for her application. Its still up to her to prove she will return home. I previously thought my sponsorship and a return ticket would be enough. That's obviously not the case. She must present her own bonafide "credentials" for the NZ tourist visa. Ive read on the forums of guys bringing back girls with similar "nothing" backgrounds, so Im all ears.

On a side note have any you fellahs taken a girl home on a one way ticket? It has to be stipulated in the NZ visa whether return or one way, not sure about other countries. My belief is that Philippines customs wont let her board unless she has a return ticket.

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 12:46 AM

My future wife flew to USA alone on a one way ticket. I think the visa packet to usa is enough for immigration.


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Posted 03 May 2018 - 03:58 AM

Surely a return ticket is a pretty good indication that she will come back. . Why would you get her a one-way?
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#4 ONLINE   Chris in Makati

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 04:11 AM

Surely a return ticket is a pretty good indication that she will come back. . Why would you get her a one-way?

 

If someone were trafficking her or taking her for some other illegal reason then they'd do everything possible to make her look like a genuine tourist just going for a short trip. So having a return ticket is not necessarily evidence that she will return, they'll probably want to see more than that..

 

It's often difficult for officials to distinguish the genuine cases from those that are not because they all try to come up with convincing stories.


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#5 OFFLINE   tbrenn

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:17 AM

Id get her a one way ticket Biggles so I can extend or change her visa at a later time. Simply buy the return ticket when i know what her status is. Id also save some money; flights ive looked at in the phils, going to the phils, seem to be much more expensive than buying them here.



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Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:47 AM

Id get her a one way ticket Biggles so I can extend or change her visa at a later time.

 

Unfortunately it is not what you want, or what suits you best, it is what the embassy wants to see, and that will be a return ticket. 


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#7 ONLINE   Chris in Makati

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:52 AM

Unfortunately it is not what you want, or what suits you best, it is what the embassy wants to see, and that will be a return ticket. 

 

And not just the foreign embassy. Philippines immigration may also want to see evidence that she will return before they let her out of the country.


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Posted 03 May 2018 - 07:06 AM

Identical visa stamps from travel to nearby countries let them tick some boxes (previously return from travel, proof that she has been with you for a while as identical visa stamps) and helped me with the notoriously difficult UK tourist visa, so worth thinking about. Don't know if you are coming and going a lot but if so then rent a cheap apartment in both your names on the long term lease beyond your nz travel dates, works out cheaper than staying in hotels and ticks another box. Letter from the local headman (or whatever local council guy is called) confirming the girl's domestic situation may help. You are dealing with box-ticker bureacrats who are mostly concerned with keeping their job so make it as easy as poss and explain the overall picture in the covering letter with reference to the facts that you think will help.



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Posted 03 May 2018 - 07:52 AM

Yes trader...that would be me gut feeling also.

True Chris, they will be more strict at NAIA letting her leave the country for the first time. That would probably be the reason I will by a return ticket. I can always change the return segment at a later date.

Great ideas bbull! And yes the relevant, covering letter is essential.
 



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Posted 03 May 2018 - 08:35 AM

Lol. I remember having an argument at NZ Embassy in Singapore to get NZ visa for my ex-Thai gf.

 

I got Australian visa for her on the spot before, but NZ wanted proof of me being able to financially support the trip.

 

I slapped my BMW car key on the counter and asked it that was enough.  It wasn't and I had to go out and get

an ATM printout ROFL.

 

After that, we got her visa within a few hours. 



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Posted 03 May 2018 - 11:13 AM

As I see it your only stance is the support you can provide (financial and accomodation and prove it documentarily) and to promise yourself to be responsible for her return.
Plus her strong family ties as a reason for return.
Even if successful you may likely have to sign something upon departure, get there way early expect an interview and delays and the possibility to be turned away.
Rehearse answers to questions about each other and your relationship.

On a scale she's a poor candidate.

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 09:40 PM

I’ve heard stories of poor girls getting a tourist visa. Personally I don’t believe a word of it. No I’m speaking specifically for the US. Chances are of someone you describe getting a tourist visitors visa for the USA will not be possible under those circumstances. Don’t believe all the BS you read. With that said other countries have an easier time of it. It’s much easier to get someone in from the Philippines to Australia for instance.

No matter what kind of proof of strong ties that will make them come back to the PI, is not good enough for the embassy. They have to have either money in the bank and by that I mean more than just a few pesos, owner of a business that’s actually doing well or own a home or have had a very good job for many years.

If you’re trying to get a tourist visa for one of the girls like you described to the US, it’s just not gonna happen


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Posted 03 May 2018 - 10:13 PM

Yes trader...that would be me gut feeling also.

True Chris, they will be more strict at NAIA letting her leave the country for the first time. That would probably be the reason I will by a return ticket. I can always change the return segment at a later date.

Great ideas bbull! And yes the relevant, covering letter is essential.
 

 

 

I’ve heard stories of poor girls getting a tourist visa. Personally I don’t believe a word of it. No I’m speaking specifically for the US. Chances are of someone you describe getting a tourist visitors visa for the USA will not be possible under those circumstances. Don’t believe all the BS you read. With that said other countries have an easier time of it. It’s much easier to get someone in from the Philippines to Australia for instance.

No matter what kind of proof of strong ties that will make them come back to the PI, is not good enough for the embassy. They have to have either money in the bank and by that I mean more than just a few pesos, owner of a business that’s actually doing well or own a home or have had a very good job for many years.

If you’re trying to get a tourist visa for one of the girls like you described to the US, it’s just not gonna happen


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No Way if she has never been out of the country before are they going to allow that she leaves without Much Much more than you have mentioned.  I had a GF who I took to Thailand many times and several other SEA countries and I did all the smart things and got her a bank account with visa debit card and had her get new ID with the condo address and got a copy of the lease with her name jointly on it then waited a year and she was turned down for USA tourist visa.  They said not enough Assets because her average balance in the bank was only about 50k pesos a month.  It has been almost a year and we are going to try again and have kept the account balance much higher than that and have some employment records for her now for almost 2 years.   I don't know about NZ but to USA Fiancee is the only way is you are not willing to have a lot of passport ink and bank records


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Posted 04 May 2018 - 08:23 AM

Good points jeffjones and i agree with your conclusion. The overwhelming majority of kiwis Ive met or know, seemed to have no trouble getting a tourist visa for their girl. I'm kindah struggling to think of one that was declined. Thats only anecdotal evidence and i wouldn't hang my hat on it. I probably should have clarified, she needs a NZ tourist visa. Yes, I understand that the US and Europe are extremely difficult to get into...I wouldn't stand a chance.



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Posted 04 May 2018 - 03:57 PM

No Way if she has never been out of the country before are they going to allow that she leaves without Much Much more than you have mentioned. I had a GF who I took to Thailand many times and several other SEA countries and I did all the smart things and got her a bank account with visa debit card and had her get new ID with the condo address and got a copy of the lease with her name jointly on it then waited a year and she was turned down for USA tourist visa. They said not enough Assets because her average balance in the bank was only about 50k pesos a month. It has been almost a year and we are going to try again and have kept the account balance much higher than that and have some employment records for her now for almost 2 years. I don't know about NZ but to USA Fiancee is the only way is you are not willing to have a lot of passport ink and bank records

How much do you think needs to be shown as an average bank balance? I’ve heard owning land makes a huge difference. My gf has 500k+ in her account for a few months now and just purchased 164 sqm piece of land in her name (with a 25 year lease to me ,with an auto renew). We have traveled a lot to other Asian countries (6 cruises, a week in Bali, many times in Singapore, etc.). She also manages and rents my Philippines condo. Has ads on Airbnb and booking .com. Hope all this is enough. Will probably apply for a visitors visa to US the end of this year


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Posted 05 May 2018 - 03:23 PM

How much do you think needs to be shown as an average bank balance? I’ve heard owning land makes a huge difference. My gf has 500k+ in her account for a few months now and just purchased 164 sqm piece of land in her name (with a 25 year lease to me ,with an auto renew). We have traveled a lot to other Asian countries (6 cruises, a week in Bali, many times in Singapore, etc.). She also manages and rents my Philippines condo. Has ads on Airbnb and booking .com. Hope all this is enough. Will probably apply for a visitors visa to US the end of this year


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I don’t know it might work if the immigration officer doesn’t ask to many questions about why she’s only had the 500 K for a little while. They’re also going to want to look for study employment I think


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Posted 06 May 2018 - 01:19 AM

Re: return ticket

 

PHL resident citizens traveling as tourists are required by PHL immigration to have a return ticket to the PHL.

 

http://www.immigrati...faqs/travel-req

 

1.  What are travel requirements for Philippine citizens with tourist-purpose visas?

  1. Unexpired DFA-issued passport (at least six-months valid)
  2. Unexpired visa (if visa-required at final destination); and
  3. Return ticket.

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 09:23 AM

Most certainly will need a return ticket. Much good advice previously too - trips to other places, barangay captain letter, bank account, job, all will help - what is the minimum that is up to the embassy your applying too. It is subjective, not finite. 



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Posted 12 May 2018 - 12:59 AM

She visited the baranguay captain and was refused a letter explaining her ties to the community and domestic situation. Irked me no end because the gf volunteers for all community work in her baranguay...I didnt think it would be a big ask...so yeah it aint looking good on the bonafides...on a more positive note, her aunty is running in the elections for captaincy so fingers crossed.



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Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:33 AM

I'm British and had to have a ticket back out of NZ (not necessarily a return ticket) before they would let me board the flight to Christchurch. And yes, they did ask to see it.
Same for all tourists from memory (except maybe Aussies). 


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:35 AM

TBren: try bribing the barangay captain, its the Philippine way. 

 

I think the other guy's chance of US tourist visa is "slim to none". 

 

20 years ago Kiwi tourist visa for my Filipina GFwas quite easy.

No form even, just sent a letter of sponsorship and she had brief interview at Embassy but was not biggie.

 

Canada and US was no way; did not try Oz or Europe. 



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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:34 AM

Yes kantutero that was my first thought...lay down some cash...ill look into it.
These days from the kiwis ive spoken to they dont even have an interview...a phone call maybe. But as always be prepared



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Posted 13 May 2018 - 09:33 PM

I have experience with Australian immigration. Offers of support from Australian friends are not evidence of an incentive to return which is what authorities want in tourist visas. I have a quote from immigration " The onus is on the applicant to satisfy the decision maker that the applicant intends only to stay temporarily in Australia" I recommend that you send money to her bank account and see what happens.good Luck.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:12 AM

Has anyone on this board been successful getting a visitors visa to the US. If so, why do you think it was approved? Feels like a waste of time applying, even will a good amount of money in her account for 6 months, land in her name and lots of travel outside the Philippines. Think the missing piece is an excellent high paying job


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 04:42 PM

Has anyone on this board been successful getting a visitors visa to the US. If so, why do you think it was approved? Feels like a waste of time applying, even will a good amount of money in her account for 6 months, land in her name and lots of travel outside the Philippines. Think the missing piece is an excellent high paying job


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Actually it sounds like she has almost all the pieces in place other than a compelling reason to come back. Other than that it seems like most of the pieces are in place. The other thing is the value of the land and what it’s used for. The embassy official looks bad if the applicant doesn’t return.


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