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Posted 12 April 2018 - 03:26 AM

There's a girl telling me she wants to leave the bar but needs to pay the bar for her license before she can leave. Granted, whether she really leaves the bar is a whole other topic, but what is this license fee and how much is it? Is it a standard fee for all bargirls?




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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:09 AM

Shes playing you. They can leave the bar anytime. The only thing that could be an issue is if they paid for some of her employment requirements and she agreed to pay them back over time. However this is not likely. Id watch out for this one, seems she is already a scammer! Good luck.


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:21 AM

There is no license fee for an entertainer. This is hogwash dirtier than one can believe. The only implication in regards to entertainment or more accurately it's venue is the fact the Philippines government taxes such places at a rate of 18% rather than 12%. There is no individual fee for the entertainers themselves. 

 

This is based on running an entertainment venue in the Philippines before. Granted this was years ago but I know for a fact our entertainers never paid a separate tax. This does not mean the venue in question isn't pulling a fast one. 



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:22 AM

thanks for the heads up. although what kind of requirements are there and what might the cost?


There is no license fee for an entertainer. This is hogwash dirtier than one can believe. The only implication in regards to entertainment or more accurately it's venue is the fact the Philippines government taxes such places at a rate of 18% rather than 12%. There is no individual fee for the entertainers themselves. 

 

This is based on running an entertainment venue in the Philippines before. Granted this was years ago but I know for a fact our entertainers never paid a separate tax. This does not mean the venue in question isn't pulling a fast one. 

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:37 AM

thanks for the heads up. although what kind of requirements are there and what might the cost?


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Most welcome

 

The only requirement (singular) is talent. There are no fees involved unless a particular venue due to its popularity might charge a said entertainer but this would be idiotic IMHO.

 

In most cases, the entertainer is paid a set fee per night. That fee obviously depends on the popularity of the entertainer.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:44 AM

There is no license fee for an entertainer. This is hogwash dirtier than one can believe. The only implication in regards to entertainment or more accurately it's venue is the fact the Philippines government taxes such places at a rate of 18% rather than 12%. There is no individual fee for the entertainers themselves. 

 

This is based on running an entertainment venue in the Philippines before. Granted this was years ago but I know for a fact our entertainers never paid a separate tax. This does not mean the venue in question isn't pulling a fast one. 

Sorry to burst your bubble but everyone in the bar is licensed through the city, even your ex-waitresses at TR were licensed and a majority of time the businesses extend credit to the employees for the annual license and permit, depending on the individual licensing runs on average about 1500-1800p per year for the 3-4 ids's you seen them wearing around their necks, they ain't free. City License, Barangy Work permit, city health ID, LACEM ID.  Chest X-Ray (TB) and some require Dental X-rays(IIRC thats new hires under 22, not an annual requirement)


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:56 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble but everyone in the bar is licensed through the city, even your ex-waitresses at TR were licensed and a majority of time the businesses extend credit to the employees for the annual license and permit, depending on the individual licensing runs on average about 1500-1800p per year for the 3-4 ids's you seen them wearing around their necks, they ain't free. City License, Barangy Work permit, city health ID, LACEM ID.  Chest X-Ray (TB) and some require Dental X-rays(IIRC thats new hires under 22, not an annual requirement)

 

Not a burst of a bubble at all but I was talking about entertainers (Singers, comedians, bands, etc.), not bargirls or waitresses. I believe there are 3 licenses that must be paid per year in regards to waitresses and ladies working in restaurants and probably more in bars. We used to pay half at TR along with yearly "donations" during Christmas time. 

 

Never heard of a bar charging a nightly license fee have you?


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:18 AM

Generally the mamasan fronts them a couple thousand to cover getting those tags you see them wearing. Plus a thousand or so more for the uniform in some bars.

Most cute girls should be able to make enough in salary and commissions to pay off their debts in the first week.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:32 AM

hehe, golden info guys, appreciate it.

 

this girl went straight for the jugular telling me she had to pay a license fee of 60k!

 

of course that doesnt add up since a girl would likely never pay that back and a bar wouldnt invest that kind of money in a young, unpredictable girl...so i had to ask.

 

the greed is pretty amazing,


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:01 AM

60k? Jesus Christ, that can be 3 months income for an average bargirl. She's playing you alright.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:18 AM

hehe, golden info guys, appreciate it.

 

this girl went straight for the jugular telling me she had to pay a license fee of 60k!

 

of course that doesnt add up since a girl would likely never pay that back and a bar wouldnt invest that kind of money in a young, unpredictable girl...so i had to ask.

 

the greed is pretty amazing,

Sounds like she's trying to cover the "steady" so she can go back to work later


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:21 AM

Bar girl mathematics, $60k pie in the sky number from a girl who probably will just take a few weeks out and see how much money she can make from BF/Customer once the money dries up back to the bar or another bar. Some bars try to enforce the permanent bar release fee but its total bollocks and only really applies when the girl and the bar agree a split of a lump sum!  To be honest if your girl asks for that already imagine what else she will ask for any how many angles she will use to emotionally extort you. Do a runner or just bar release her when you fancy some fun without the stress of a relationship. 


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:35 AM

The OP is erroneously calling it a "entertainer license fee." There is no such thing as he words it, but that's not what he means, nor what the girl in question is talking about. She is talking about the various ID fees that AC Scott and now myself are speaking to, and yes she can be in debt(most likely to her mamasan) for a few thousand, but.........bar owners are NOT supposed to hold ID's against girl's leaving either way. What happens is that the receiving bar talks to the sending bar and they work it out, so that the "old bar" gets reimbursed and the girl is allowed to leave with her licenses and ID's intact, so she can work at the "new" bar.  



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 12:55 PM

Shes playing you. They can leave the bar anytime. The only thing that could be an issue is if they paid for some of her employment requirements and she agreed to pay them back over time. However this is not likely. Id watch out for this one, seems she is already a scammer! Good luck.

You are probably right.

Dont forget the  parasite mamasans,

that tell the these uneducated girls,

whatever to control them.

The new A/C.

Not many new girls from the probince.

The majority are now hardcore girls.

Sad really.

 

Cheers


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:23 PM

Based on what a couple of girls have told me they do have to pay for their dancers/waitress ID and for new girls the mamasan will normally lend them the money at some high rate of interest. Not that the girls understand interest rates. So she will get a deal that means if she borrows 1000 peso from the mamasan she will have to pay back 250 peso a week for 5 weeks. One girl told me her dancers ID cost 750 peso she was not pumping me for money she just did not want to loose it and have to pay to replace it.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:53 PM

Based on what a couple of girls have told me they do have to pay for their dancers/waitress ID and for new girls the mamasan will normally lend them the money at some high rate of interest. Not that the girls understand interest rates. So she will get a deal that means if she borrows 1000 peso from the mamasan she will have to pay back 250 peso a week for 5 weeks. One girl told me her dancers ID cost 750 peso she was not pumping me for money she just did not want to loose it and have to pay to replace it.

Probably right heard the same.

Mamasans are parasites.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 03:20 PM

Mamasans are parasites.

 

No skin in this game but doubtful girls fly out of Samar on their own coin. Mamasan probably fronted the flight and then set up a reasonable interest cost and repayment schedule.  B)



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:06 PM

Is this kind of like the old permanent barfine charge?


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:12 PM

No skin in this game but doubtful girls fly out of Samar on their own coin. Mamasan probably fronted the flight and then set up a reasonable interest cost and repayment schedule.  B)

The only flying done by most Samar girls en route to the bright lights of AC, is if the Philtranco driver hits a bump on the road too hard!


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:34 PM

Not a burst of a bubble at all but I was talking about entertainers (Singers, comedians, bands, etc.), not bargirls or waitresses. I believe there are 3 licenses that must be paid per year in regards to waitresses and ladies working in restaurants and probably more in bars. We used to pay half at TR along with yearly "donations" during Christmas time. 

 

Never heard of a bar charging a nightly license fee have you?

 

told girl what information i got here and she maintain mamasan said i have to pay it.  i told her there is no such thing except for the id cards but seems like she didnt believe me and maintained mamasan said so. said something about getting a "red list" on my paper.

 

then, as an example told me about her friend who had a foreigner pay the bar 60k and take her back to the province. but explained it, "like my friend, she's stay barfined shes go back to province."

 

she turned 18 last september so either hasnt been around long enough to know the rules, got very shrewed really quick or we are having some language barrier issues.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:40 PM

told girl what information i got here and she maintain mamasan said i have to pay it. i told her there is no such thing except for the id cards but seems like she didnt believe me and maintained mamasan said so. said something about getting a "red list" on my paper.

then, as an example told me about her friend who had a foreigner pay the bar 60k and take her back to the province. but explained it, "like my friend, she's stay barfined shes go back to province."

she turned 18 last september so either hasnt been around long enough to know the rules, got very shrewed really quick or we are having some language barrier issues.


I think what is happening is that she wants you to pay a permanent barfine.

Either you are on board with this, or not.

Most girls would not expect guys to pay the permanent barfine. It would be silly to pay it, in my opinion.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:40 PM

I think what is happening is that she wants you to pay a permanent barfine.

Either you are on board with this, or not.

Most girls would not expect guys to pay the permanent barfine. It would be silly to pay it, in my opinion.

 

no, i wont pay it...but what is it? the concept i mean. does a bar seriously expect a girl to pay them 60k to stop working? how could they enforce that?

 

i always expected she would go back to work after i left but she never did. opened a little store thats doing okay, bought a few pigs and seems happy just running the store and spending more time with her baby.

 

im more trying to get her some info to base her decision on facts and not be pressured by a bar manager to do something she doesnt want to do.  i get the feeling thats whats happening since she is definitely a money maker in the bar that would have a customer 3 or 4 times a week...but hasnt been back to work for at least a couple months now. 



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 02:19 AM

no, i wont pay it...but what is it? the concept i mean. does a bar seriously expect a girl to pay them 60k to stop working? how could they enforce that?

 

i always expected she would go back to work after i left but she never did. opened a little store thats doing okay, bought a few pigs and seems happy just running the store and spending more time with her baby.

 

im more trying to get her some info to base her decision on facts and not be pressured by a bar manager to do something she doesnt want to do.  i get the feeling thats whats happening since she is definitely a money maker in the bar that would have a customer 3 or 4 times a week...but hasnt been back to work for at least a couple months now. 

 

Wait now...In your original post you state "There's a girl telling me she wants to leave the bar but needs to pay the bar for her license before she can leave." NOW, you state "but hasnt been back to work for at least a couple months now."

 

Sounds like she has already left the bar, thus the original question is mute!!!


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 02:39 AM

no, i wont pay it...but what is it? the concept i mean. does a bar seriously expect a girl to pay them 60k to stop working? how could they enforce that?

 

i always expected she would go back to work after i left but she never did. opened a little store thats doing okay, bought a few pigs and seems happy just running the store and spending more time with her baby.

 

im more trying to get her some info to base her decision on facts and not be pressured by a bar manager to do something she doesnt want to do.  i get the feeling thats whats happening since she is definitely a money maker in the bar that would have a customer 3 or 4 times a week...but hasnt been back to work for at least a couple months now. 

The red list is how the mamasan justifies the girl not working in the bar at a particular time. She's basically writing notes in the attendance book next to the girl's name in red ink. If I understand the rest of your musings, you want to take the girl out of the bar, I presume during your vacation only, and not pay the bar. That's not going to happen. Let me see if I can get logic to register within you. 1. The girl is working in the bar cuz she needs money. 2. You want to take her out of the bar and not replace that money that she still needs. 3. How does she pay her bills then? 4. Are you paying them? There sounds like there is a lot here that you're not telling us which is WHY we are having difficulty answering your questions.(Big shock) The concept is called a permanent bar fine which basically reserves the girl for you any time you come to town. That doesn't mean that she's not working in the bar when you're gone.

 

Again, this is a perfect example of unnecessary drama caused by said foreigner who can't do one simple thing. Come here. Have fun. Leave. Rinse, repeat. Keep going at it your way and it's just going to cost you a lot of money and then one day.......a light bulb will go off in your head and you'll realize how much money, time and heart you have wasted, and you will most likely swing back to a more cynical extreme after such a loss. Make it easy on yourself and just have fun. Oh, and the bar manager is not pressuring her to do anything. That's the role you have assumed. Think about it. The manager could care less what that particular girl does. The girls come and go and they do it a lot more often, then you seem to be aware of.


Wait now...In your original post you state "There's a girl telling me she wants to leave the bar but needs to pay the bar for her license before she can leave." NOW, you state "but hasnt been back to work for at least a couple months now."

 

Sounds like she has already left the bar, thus the original question is mute!!!

Yeahhhhhh, he's gonna back pedal all over the place. Let him continue on and let's see what else he has to say, because we got the makings of another classic. Hehehe.


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 02:40 AM

no, i wont pay it...but what is it? the concept i mean. does a bar seriously expect a girl to pay them 60k to stop working? how could they enforce that?

i always expected she would go back to work after i left but she never did. opened a little store thats doing okay, bought a few pigs and seems happy just running the store and spending more time with her baby.

im more trying to get her some info to base her decision on facts and not be pressured by a bar manager to do something she doesnt want to do. i get the feeling thats whats happening since she is definitely a money maker in the bar that would have a customer 3 or 4 times a week...but hasnt been back to work for at least a couple months now.


The only reason to pay the permanent barfine is if she wants to continue to work in the Bar, while seeing you when you are in town, without paying a barfine to the bar.

If she left the bar permanently, then no reason to pay the permanent barfine.




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