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#1 OFFLINE   slore

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 10:21 PM

In preparation for my first ever trip I have arranged to meet with a DIA girl at Caticlan for our stay on Boracay; but I will travel separately (by bus from Iloilo). I purchased her tickets on PAL; and was surprised to see this:

 

"To protect the true credit card owner, we require presentation of the credit card used in purchasing tickets from this website at the ticket collection point or upon check-in. If the credit card owner is not part of the travelling party and is unable to present the credit card, clear photocopies of the front of the credit card and the valid PHOTO ID of the credit card owner shall be required from the passengers at the ticket collection point or at check-in. It shall be the responsibility of the credit card owner to ensure that the passenger(s) comply with this requirement otherwise the passenger(s) shall be denied boarding."

"To avoid inconvenience, kindly ensure compliance with the foregoing Terms and Conditions by bringing the credit card used to purchase the tickets; or, in case the credit card owner is not part of the travelling party, a clear photocopy of the credit card and valid photo ID of the credit card owner for presentation at the ticket collection point or at the airport check-in counter.
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I don't see how sending her a copy of my credit card and ID protects me! Will they really refuse to let her board if I don't? Has anyone else had to deal with this situation?

 

I have contacted the airline to see if I can get this waived, any other ideas?




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#2 OFFLINE   UFASN8ME

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 10:53 PM

Yes well I used my friends credit card to purchase a few PAL tickets to take me from Manila to Caticlan last October. Then I looked into it and thought this is not good so I rang Philippine Air in Sydney and they just told me to carry a photo copy of ID like drivers licence of whom the cards name is in and yes I think they wanted a copy of the credit card so what I did was copy the DL with a letter of authorization and had it signed. I think that should be enough to get you over the line so after all this I get to the Airport and they did not ask one question in regards, make sure you and your friend can be contacted on the day if someone from the airport mite need to make a call to confirm, I think you should be fine they could give your girl a hard time just depending on who she is dealing with just put the right information in that letter and you should be ok good luck. 



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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:11 PM

Thanks for the advice - there is no office here in NZ so I was going to contact Sydney next - you saved me a call



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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:23 PM

It's more to protect them as credit card theft is a thriving  business here.

A photocopy of the credit card  where the CC numbers can clearly be read and a photo copy of the passport should do.

They won't let her board without those verifications.



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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:36 PM

A photocopy of the credit card  where the CC numbers can clearly be read and a photo copy of the passport should do - yes it would, for anyone wanting to use my credit card for fraud; this is exactly what I am trying to avoid sending. They have already processed the payment, so they are not at risk; and they do say this is

To protect the true credit card owner,

When in fact it has the opposite effect.



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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:59 PM

They are serious .. My buddy booked a flight on PAL to come and see me. He showed up at the Manila airport without the CC he used to book the flight. They would not honor the ticket even though he had plenty of ID to prove he was the one that bought the ticket. He had to buy another ticket and then apply for a refund. He got his money back on the first ticket but what a hassle.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 12:40 AM

I would attempt to prove it prior, but also give her something as well, like a copy of your ID because we have no idea what their systems are like.

 

Why not blot out 4 numbers of the card.  like the last 4.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 02:00 AM

This is common when using a credit card to purchase airline tickets and sometimes  hotel reservations.  They often ask to see the card before boarding.  Happens to me all the time. I would not send cc numbers and copy of id to someone you don't know very well.  The airlines have procedures for your situation where the person who bought the ticket is not traveling with the ticket holder.  Contact nearest PAL office and ask how you can be sure your friend can board without the cc.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 03:01 AM

Yes, I recall one airline requiring that I present the credit card used to purchase the ticket and I didn't bring that credit card with me.  However, the ticket was for me so they permitted a copy of my passport and allowed me to proceed.  Credit card fraud issues.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:23 AM

A photocopy of the credit card  where the CC numbers can clearly be read and a photo copy of the passport should do - yes it would, for anyone wanting to use my credit card for fraud; this is exactly what I am trying to avoid sending. They have already processed the payment, so they are not at risk; and they do say this is

To protect the true credit card owner,

When in fact it has the opposite effect.

 

They assume that you know and trust the person you bought the ticket for and that person will protect your information.

 

Next time use Cebu-Pacific.  They don't have that requirement.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:29 AM

They wont let her board with out it ? they let me board with out it and did not question me at all regarding the matter .



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:56 AM

I have been required to show my credit card when checking in for PAL flights, but this is the only airline in the Philippines who have this requirement. If this kind of thing is likely to be a problem then better book with another airline. Cebu Pacific and AirAsia never ask for it.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 05:47 AM

Even worse with hotel booking, where they want to see front and back (with the three anti-fraud digits):

If the card owner is not the one staying at the hotel, the guest is required to present clear photocopies of the front and back of the credit card used and a valid government issued PHOTO ID of the card owner. The hotel may cancel a confirmed reservation if a booking is suspected to be made using a fraudulent credit card.

 

 

Total bs. In europe it used to be that you had to present the credit card with which the ticket was purchased at check in until some court knocked it over years ago.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:01 AM

I just made a R/T Manlia-Butuan on Cebu Pacific, had pre-printed my boarding passes, and although prepared, nobody at either airport asked for any ID.  Great Security.  



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:10 AM

I just made a R/T Manlia-Butuan on Cebu Pacific, had pre-printed my boarding passes, and although prepared, nobody at either airport asked for any ID. Great Security.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:12 AM

I fly inter island a lot with cebu pacific . I rarly have checked bags so i pre print my boarding pass and never show id

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 09:07 AM

you r still protected by the lack of security no on the back of the card, prob a good idea to blank out your DOB on the passport copy, though, as that is first level of security with banks etc... don't know if the credit card co's have rules on this or not so you may be breaking their terms and conditions. 

 

can always use a prepaid card to make the booking which keeps them one step away from the serious money



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 09:28 AM

If you are part of the Cebu Pacific frequent flyer club, you can add someone as your guest, buy them tickets and they do not have to show the CC.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 11:35 AM

Even worse with hotel booking, where they want to see front and back (with the three anti-fraud digits):

 

Which booking site did that quote come from?

 

Agoda have this condition too, but I've never actually had a hotel ask to see my card when I've booked through them. I was once already on my way to the hotel when I realised I'd left the credit card I booked with at home. I kind of panicked, called Agoda and they cancelled my original reservation, made a new booking with another card and refunded the old one. After going through all that hassle, when I got to the hotel they never even asked to see the card.

 

 

If you are part of the Cebu Pacific frequent flyer club, you can add someone as your guest, buy them tickets and they do not have to show the CC.

 

It's not really a frequent flyer program, it's just registering your name on their web site so they retain your personal details. Anyone can book a flight for another person on Cebu Pacific using your own credit card. You don't need to register with them to do that.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 11:54 AM

Which booking site did that quote come from?

 

http://www.paramount...hilippines.com/

 

It was in the email confirming the reservation.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 01:28 PM

I had the same request a couple of years ago from Thai Airways at Bangkok flying to HCMC. I gave the check-in clerk my (somewhat worn) visa card and she gave it back to me and said she could not read the number because her eyesight was not too good. My TGF who was with me took the card from her and read the number out, along with the security code.  

 

All good!

 

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 12:25 AM

I did get a response from PAL - not much use to me as there is no PAL office in New Zealand..but they said:

 

Please be advised that presentation of the photocopied credit card used and any of your valid ID is required if you are not traveling with the passenger to avoid denied boarding.  We suggest that you may proceed to any PAL ticket office near you to present the credit card used and any valid ID along with the booking confirmation of the passenger.  Once done, the passenger will not have to present those requirements upon check-in.  You may also send the scanned copies of the face of the credit card and ID to the passenger’s email address, or you try to call our 24-hour Reservations Hotline at 1-800-4-359-725 (1-800-I-FLY-PAL) for further assistance.



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Posted 20 April 2014 - 03:02 AM

This is common with airlines around the world.

 

Best way to avoid it in the future if you are booking for someone else is to book through a travel agent.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:37 AM

I once flew with PAL, Manila to Bangkok. My friend used his card to book it for me as he owed me some cash after his first trip away.

They flat out were refusing to let me check in without the card. I was so lucky that they called him and he scanned it through to my email. Without it I would have been screwed. Only way around it would be to scan her a copy and block out the 8 middle digits and the 3 numbers on the back. Hope this helps

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 05:15 PM

Flying to the Philippines on Delta I had to have the credit card that I paid for the trip. I wasn't sure which one I used so took awhile before they found it. I haven't had the problem with any Agoda bookins or any flights in the Philippines. However I used Cebu Pacific. 







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