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@  doctor who : (20 November 2017 - 01:09 PM)

Strawberry Jam

@  doctor who : (20 November 2017 - 01:07 PM)

GET A LIFE LOSERS1, STFU already,,, this intelligent post comes from a Member who's trying to close this topic down ,, WTF people who live in Glass houses shouldnt throw stones, or every Action gets a Reaction, telling members to STFU is the wrong way to go about what your trying to achive,, And i didnt need to go to univercity find that out,

@  coolboss : (20 November 2017 - 12:25 PM)

subic bay

@  SimonAngeles : (20 November 2017 - 11:51 AM)

Just to add some thoughts to the C saga. Think of his user name, his constant need for reassurance both from his woman and followers of his blogs. Couldn't handle any form of criticism whether constructive or even observations. I liked his blogs personally but I still believe he's insecure and has his own issues.

@  kantutero : (20 November 2017 - 09:42 AM)

Like a bunch of bored old ladies gossiping; and they say Filipinas love tzismis!

@  kantutero : (20 November 2017 - 09:41 AM)

GET A LIFE LOSERS! If you have nothing else to talk about than somebody else's unfortunate incident then STFU already.

@  stew : (20 November 2017 - 06:09 AM)

@Psychman post anything that makes you feel a little better about yourself

@  Gillette : (20 November 2017 - 06:07 AM)

Haha!

@  Psychman : (20 November 2017 - 06:04 AM)

gee stew...thanks, but while that post might have taken you hours to write, it took me three minutes.

@  stew : (20 November 2017 - 05:40 AM)

@bill44ca & Psychman , most guys at too busy with our own lives to over think how a 70+ year old monger deals with his, maybe you guys need a little something extra in yours lives

@  bill44ca : (20 November 2017 - 04:25 AM)

The constant need for cuddling is not normal and if she is the same and he can't even walk ahead of her there are bound to be problems. Maybe he didn't want to finish the TR and admit the fights and shame

@  doctor who : (20 November 2017 - 03:55 AM)

And then getting someone else to do it for you ,,when you are reading every word ,, adds wood to the fire

@  doctor who : (20 November 2017 - 03:53 AM)

plus 2

@  Gillette : (20 November 2017 - 03:52 AM)

Well, that is a very reasonable analysis in my opinion Psychman.

@  Psychman : (20 November 2017 - 03:50 AM)

The end :)

@  Psychman : (20 November 2017 - 03:50 AM)

I have learned a ton about the hobby by others exploring the practices of others...to have someone say my behavior is not for discussion goes beyond the nature of what an internet forum is

@  Psychman : (20 November 2017 - 03:49 AM)

example..years ago, there were a few guys who made a walk between a mongering spot and a certain hotel in San Jose Costa Rica last at night..they insisted it was safe..they were challenged on this behavior, not for them, but for newbies and others...to not challenge them would be to be complicit ...same thing when mongers hear others going down certain paths....

@  Psychman : (20 November 2017 - 03:47 AM)

The whole point of challenging some of his ideas and MO was not for HIM, but for others..that is the nature of this board, and boards like it-ideas are presented and discussed so all can learn from them, not for one men's ego..that is what a personal blog is for..

@  Psychman : (20 November 2017 - 03:45 AM)

HankMTV..I will answer, at least for me. C tolerated no feedback or discussion that did not 100 percent agree with his actions or perceptive. This is a board for the free exchange of ideas, and that type of controlling behavior will get push back. Especially since he was more than free to evaluate other people's ideas in other threads.And Old Fart, bossy at best, but really controlling beyond belief

@  bill44ca : (20 November 2017 - 03:30 AM)

@tacolover I don't know anything about facial recon either but if that is possible Cudddler might have posted the same photos on facebook as on the board. Maybe Biggles knows if he even used her real name if he met her she might not even named Mars



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#1 ONLINE   jeffjones

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:22 AM

So I'm already booked for my next trip but I still look on Agoda to see what's what from time to time.
Same dates, same hotel but now with "massive price reduction of 43%" and guess what ? Same price I paid lol.
Do all of the booking sites go in for this bullshit ? It reminds me of back home in the UK, 365 day a yr sales in furniture shops.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:31 AM

Yeah, they all seem to do that. One thing I have found on Agoda, in particular, is if you click the "X" to close the page on many occasions you'll get a popup which says something to the effect of "Stop, last chance, etc." and they will give you a deal on a 5 star hotel for like $50 or $60. This happened to me booking hotels in Bangkok. A couple of times just recently I stayed at the Mandarin which is normally around $200 a night for only $50. Haven't had the same luck in the Philippines yet. Certainly worth a try.

 

Also, I've booked hotels in Manila way in advance on Agoda which I thought was a great deal at the time only to find out 2 months later I could have saved 40%. Damned if you do, damned if you don't type situation but at the end of the day, I was still happy. Using Agoda I get at least $150 a year in free hotel rooms due to frequency. 



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:33 AM

I use Agoda almost exclusively and never had an issue with them


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:18 AM

Yeah, they all seem to do that. One thing I have found on Agoda, in particular, is if you click the "X" to close the page on many occasions you'll get a popup which says something to the effect of "Stop, last chance, etc." and they will give you a deal on a 5 star hotel for like $50 or $60. This happened to me booking hotels in Bangkok. A couple of times just recently I stayed at the Mandarin which is normally around $200 a night for only $50. Haven't had the same luck in the Philippines yet. Certainly worth a try.

 

Also, I've booked hotels in Manila way in advance on Agoda which I thought was a great deal at the time only to find out 2 months later I could have saved 40%. Damned if you do, damned if you don't type situation but at the end of the day, I was still happy. Using Agoda I get at least $150 a year in free hotel rooms due to frequency. 

 

If you are booking so far in advance wouldn't the room be fully refundable? 
Cancel your booking then make a new one with the lower cost.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:16 AM

I'm a long time happy user of Agoda, and yes, all the rooms are always without fail on sale. Pretty similar to most businesses that sell anything. There's RRP, which is almost never used, and then there's the real price.

With Agoda or other similar sites, I've found that 9 times out of 10 I can get a better deal than booking directly with the hotel. Not always so can pay to check with the hotels website.

 

Cheers


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 09:06 AM

I find booking about 1 month in advance is about right for price etc, at least with Agoda if you take advantage of the pay later option you can cancel and rebook if the price goes down.
I've never had a problem with Agoda but the bullshit sale prices are annoying.

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 11:23 AM

Another website I use aside from Agoda ... is Asiatravel.com ... i compare both and believe you me.. there are times asiatravel.com offer cheaper rate than Agoda...
Something to look at bro :D

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 01:32 PM

I buy hotels.com gift cards at discount on ebay, and also they have a 10% off loyalty program (stay 10 nights, get one night free).


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 02:29 AM

Used them for many years around Asia. A couple of times when I have booked with Agoda and wanted to xtend the hotel has suggested I use Agoda again for a cheaper rate. One hotel in Singapore let me use their wifi to re-book.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 06:12 AM

Used them for many years around Asia. A couple of times when I have booked with Agoda and wanted to xtend the hotel has suggested I use Agoda again for a cheaper rate. One hotel in Singapore let me use their wifi to re-book.

 

The big reservation services like Agoda negotiate with many hotel groups and guarantee to buy a large number of room nights each year. Because they're buying in bulk they get big discounts which are lower than the price the hotel will sell direct to individual customers.


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 06:41 AM

The big reservation services like Agoda negotiate with many hotel groups and guarantee to buy a large number of room nights each year. Because they're buying in bulk they get big discounts which are lower than the price the hotel will sell direct to individual customers.

 

True to some extent. But many hotels will offer the same [rice if you book direct online which saves the hassle of dealing with a middle man.
The highest price is normally the walk in price. I have stood in a hotel foyer more than once and booked online to get a better price. Staff usually blame it on the system which they can't over ride which is also probably;y true to some extent.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 01:11 AM

I've found the prices across all sites to be generally the same, including going direct with the hotel, the Agoda price is often their REAL price that they will accept even directly, everything else is just nonsense. Hell priceline is the owner of Agoda, Booking.com, Kayak, and probably all the other sites you are using to compare it with lol.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:02 AM

Yeah, they all seem to do that. One thing I have found on Agoda, in particular, is if you click the "X" to close the page on many occasions you'll get a popup which says something to the effect of "Stop, last chance, etc." and they will give you a deal on a 5 star hotel for like $50 or $60. This happened to me booking hotels in Bangkok. A couple of times just recently I stayed at the Mandarin which is normally around $200 a night for only $50. Haven't had the same luck in the Philippines yet. Certainly worth a try.

Also, I've booked hotels in Manila way in advance on Agoda which I thought was a great deal at the time only to find out 2 months later I could have saved 40%. Damned if you do, damned if you don't type situation but at the end of the day, I was still happy. Using Agoda I get at least $150 a year in free hotel rooms due to frequency.


The loyalty scheme is no longer available to recent users (I've been using Agoda two yrs) I enquired and the loyalty scheme was closed before I started using them,
You can transfer points to airline schemes but they are almost worthless, not quite but allmost.
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:48 AM

agoda is particularly bad they were sold not too long ago to an israeli company that owns kayak, priceline, hotes and a bunch more.  I used Agoda before the sale and it was great but now they are full of bs with last rooms, discounts, etc.  The last room is actually the last room of the block they signed up for with the hotel not necessarilly the last one.  They are trying to corner the market and have been squeezing the hotels very badly too.  I try to use another site if possible. 



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 05:56 AM

agoda is particularly bad they were sold not too long ago to an israeli company

 

When did that happen? what Israeli company bought Agoda



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:58 PM

agoda is particularly bad they were sold not too long ago to an israeli company that owns kayak, priceline, hotes and a bunch more. I used Agoda before the sale and it was great but now they are full of bs with last rooms, discounts, etc. The last room is actually the last room of the block they signed up for with the hotel not necessarilly the last one. They are trying to corner the market and have been squeezing the hotels very badly too. I try to use another site if possible.

thats how it has always worked


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 10:11 PM

When did that happen? what Israeli company bought Agoda

Agoda has been owned by The Priceline Group (PLCN) since 2007.  The group is headquartered in USA in the city of Norwalk, CT. 



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 02:48 AM

The big reservation services like Agoda negotiate with many hotel groups and guarantee to buy a large number of room nights each year. Because they're buying in bulk they get big discounts which are lower than the price the hotel will sell direct to individual customers.

Actually the norm for Agoda and Asiatravel are that the hotels pay to use the site and place and update the deals themselves.

 

Agoda et al have no desire to prebuy inventory at any price that they cannot be sure to sell. Look at the sites for rooms today or tomorrow. Do you think they want to pay for all those available rooms? Not a chance. They are agents that give the hotels a platform to sell rooms.

 

More and more hotels "undercut" Agoda, Asiatravel on their own sites so they don't have to pay a commission to Agoda.

 

Just check among the three (hotel, Agoda, Asiatravel) and find the best deal that allows 1. Cancellation at 24 hours and 2. No prepayment. Mugs prepay hotels.

 

If you are unsure about the hotel's honestly Agoda or Asiatravel are low risk go-betweens that handle the money. Asiatravel has very good customer service and actual humans in the actual countries if something goes odd. Certainly Thailand and HK which are the ones I am interested in.



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 07:14 AM

I'm a long time happy user of Agoda, and yes, all the rooms are always without fail on sale. Pretty similar to most businesses that sell anything. There's RRP, which is almost never used, and then there's the real price.

With Agoda or other similar sites, I've found that 9 times out of 10 I can get a better deal than booking directly with the hotel. Not always so can pay to check with the hotels website.

 

Cheers

 

It varies widely, so I have found it best to just check multiple sources before booking.  



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:24 AM

Actually the norm for Agoda and Asiatravel are that the hotels pay to use the site and place and update the deals themselves.

 

Agoda et al have no desire to prebuy inventory at any price that they cannot be sure to sell. Look at the sites for rooms today or tomorrow. Do you think they want to pay for all those available rooms? Not a chance. They are agents that give the hotels a platform to sell rooms.

 

More and more hotels "undercut" Agoda, Asiatravel on their own sites so they don't have to pay a commission to Agoda.

 

Just check among the three (hotel, Agoda, Asiatravel) and find the best deal that allows 1. Cancellation at 24 hours and 2. No prepayment. Mugs prepay hotels.

 

If you are unsure about the hotel's honestly Agoda or Asiatravel are low risk go-betweens that handle the money. Asiatravel has very good customer service and actual humans in the actual countries if something goes odd. Certainly Thailand and HK which are the ones I am interested in.

 

I've dealt quite a bit with Asiatravel and used to call it to make reservation with the girl who runs it, a Filipina. Yes they are very good with costumer service.

 

I don't find a need for any agent booking hotels in AC, mostly in Makati when I booked on Burgos st, those sites were cheaper then hotels gave and much cheaper then walking in off the street.

 

Once wanting to stay an extra night the hotel want far more per night so I walk down the street to internet cafe and booked on Asiatravel had it printed went back and checked in.


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:56 PM

Booked a room through Agoda a couple of days ago. It said "Last Room At This Price". Booked it, got confirmation, etc... Looked at the same hotel, category, and date, fifteen minutes later. Same everything and, AGAIN, "Last Room At This Price". The BS is comical.



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 05:41 AM

I'm here in the states and I have been useing Orbitz a lot lately. Sometimes I get a email from them with a 15-18% off discount code. Couple days ago I booked Expedia with 20% off code


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:01 AM

Booked a room through Agoda a couple of days ago. It said "Last Room At This Price". Booked it, got confirmation, etc... Looked at the same hotel, category, and date, fifteen minutes later. Same everything and, AGAIN, "Last Room At This Price". The BS is comical.

This is due to what is known as "allotment". hotels choose which and how many rooms they will allot the OTA's. Once a room is booked on Agoda,or any other OTA's, the hotel is notified and if they choose they can now allot ANOTHER room in the same price category to the OTA. In some categories, the hotel will allot several rooms but in others they may hold back so they have the opportunity to sell them directly. This is why it is usually best to book direct if you are trying to get more then one room at a time in the same category.

 

Agoda or any other OTA does not control the hotels inventory so they are not tricking or lying to you. They are just reporting what is going on on THEIR end.


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 06:43 PM

This is due to what is known as "allotment". hotels choose which and how many rooms they will allot the OTA's. Once a room is booked on Agoda,or any other OTA's, the hotel is notified and if they choose they can now allot ANOTHER room in the same price category to the OTA. In some categories, the hotel will allot several rooms but in others they may hold back so they have the opportunity to sell them directly. This is why it is usually best to book direct if you are trying to get more then one room at a time in the same category.

Agoda or any other OTA does not control the hotels inventory so they are not tricking or lying to you. They are just reporting what is going on on THEIR end.

Exactly correct- why do people have a hard time understanding this????


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 10:03 PM

Exactly correct- why do people have a hard time understanding this????


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Understanding what?? When it says "LAST ROOM AT THIS PRICE" that is a STATEMENT and should be taken literally. It should not mean "last room at this price" until we see if more are available. If that's the case it should say "Limited Availability". "Last room at this price" is nothing more than a ruse to get people to hurry up and book the "last room at this price" before it's gone(so you don't have time to check prices, and book, through other websites). Sounds like a bullshit used car salesman's pitch. BTW, I know full well about hotels holding back rooms and releasing them if they don't sell in-house.

 

AND, I just checked Agoda minutes ago. One entire month after I booked my room, it says on the Agoda website, in each, and every, room category(5 total), including the category I booked(same price), it says "LAST ROOM!". I guess you think that the hotels that sell through Agoda(or others) have someone sitting there waiting for a booking to come in so they can, immediately, one at a time, add another room to Agoda's inventory. Agoda gets blocks of rooms to sell as opposed to one room added at a time. But believe whatever sales pitch you want.


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