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Blackout actually as its a total cut of power not a reduction in voltage IE. Brownout..

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in bed with a girl last night , thought she was going to put her foot behind her head but when she was cumin put her big toe in her mouth

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#26 OFFLINE   darkacre

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 02:29 PM

Well if you look at the picture it is obvious. Amphibian and Amphibious are one and the same thing and interchangable just like Seaplane and Float Plane. so sorry if I offended your little mind. Do a little research so that you might at least appear to be a little smarter.

Little mind ? Now you attacked me twice. What is it with pr!cks like you? All I did was ask an innocent question and you come out of nowhere to attack me. Whats your purpose here? Why dont you goto all the threads and insult anyone that pose questions you deem stupid?

But wait. You dont sound too bright yourself. Im not the idiot that doesn't know the difference between an amphibian (animal) and amphibious airplane. Did you even graduated from high school? Cuz they teach you that in freshman biology. Try using the dictionary sometimes before trying to appear smart and insult others. You don't even know amphibian is a noun describing class of animals; tell us where it is used interchangeably? Amphibious is an adjective. Obviously, English isn't your strongest suit either.

BM Rum was kind enough to explain to me without the insults. You, otoh, must have been waiting in bushes to insult me, must be a personal grudge or soemthing, cuz there are hundreds of questions on this board that are more mudane (how does BF work), but you wanna come after me? Where did it say amphibious? It didnt. Technically, it said seaplane. Seaplane is a technical term as opposed to amphibious. Wikipedia distinguish these two plane types and so does the manufacturer. And it could very well be they used wrong term or picture, in any case, what is wrong with asking if seaplanes can land on runaway without you trying to attack me?

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:01 PM

Tailwind totally unnecessary attack on a great board member. I actually was about to ask the same question. Let's keep it friendly. 


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:52 AM

Little mind ? Now you attacked me twice. What is it with pr!cks like you? All I did was ask an innocent question and you come out of nowhere to attack me. Whats your purpose here? Why dont you goto all the threads and insult anyone that pose questions you deem stupid?

But wait. You dont sound too bright yourself. Im not the idiot that doesn't know the difference between an amphibian (animal) and amphibious airplane. Did you even graduated from high school? Cuz they teach you that in freshman biology. Try using the dictionary sometimes before trying to appear smart and insult others. You don't even know amphibian is a noun describing class of animals; tell us where it is used interchangeably? Amphibious is an adjective. Obviously, English isn't your strongest suit either.

BM Rum was kind enough to explain to me without the insults. You, otoh, must have been waiting in bushes to insult me, must be a personal grudge or soemthing, cuz there are hundreds of questions on this board that are more mudane (how does BF work), but you wanna come after me? Where did it say amphibious? It didnt. Technically, it said seaplane. Seaplane is a technical term as opposed to amphibious. Wikipedia distinguish these two plane types and so does the manufacturer. And it could very well be they used wrong term or picture, in any case, what is wrong with asking if seaplanes can land on runaway without you trying to attack me?

my apologies for attacking you Darkacre, completely unintended just shooting my mouth off without thinking. 

 

 

For the record:

 

"Amphibious" adjective "related to, living in or suited for both land and water"

 

"Amphibian"  noun "an airplane designed to take off from or land on either land or water. (Merriam Webster)

 

Lets just call it an "Amphib" and be done with the biology and English lessons .......Lol



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:40 AM

Yes I see now amphibians can be used to describe vehicles, but its not commonly used as it generally describes cold blooded frogs, etc., So ditto for going there.

In Cessna website and Wikipedia, "amphibious aircraft" is the correct terminology and disctinct from "seaplanes" that can only land and take off in water if it doesn't have amphibious attachments in addition to the floaters. It could be they used seaplane interchangeably with amphibious airplanes in the poster, but there is a technical distinction, if one wanted to be technical about it.

The orig picture, the dark tiny black wheels is easily missed on a smartphone screen without blowing it up and pixel peeping. The wheels werent evident. The letter SEAPLANE is in gigantic fonts compared to the dots black wheels, mostly covered in water.
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 07:58 AM

Yes I see now amphibians can be used to describe vehicles, but its not commonly used as it generally describes cold blooded frogs, etc., So ditto for going there.

In Cessna website and Wikipedia, "amphibious aircraft" is the correct terminology and disctinct from "seaplanes" that can only land and take off in water if it doesn't have amphibious attachments in addition to the floaters. It could be they used seaplane interchangeably with amphibious airplanes in the poster, but there is a technical distinction, if one wanted to be technical about it.

The orig picture, the dark tiny black wheels is easily missed on a smartphone screen without blowing it up and pixel peeping. The wheels werent evident. The letter SEAPLANE is in gigantic fonts compared to the dots black wheels, mostly covered in water.

"The basic 208 airframe can be outfitted with various types of landing gear, allowing it to operate in a wide variety of environments. Some common adaptations include skis, enlarged tires for unprepared runways, and floats on the Caravan Amphibian model." 

 

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Aside from all this BS I think 2000 pesos is a pretty good deal even just for a fun trip. Flying into Subic Bay is quite spectular.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:13 AM

So my question remains. Are seaplanes without wheel attachment allowed to fly over land? Cuz they cant land on runaways in case of emergency. I know they can fly over land, but are they allowed to?

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 09:51 AM

Yes I see now amphibians can be used to describe vehicles, but its not commonly used as it generally describes cold blooded frogs, etc., So ditto for going there.

In Cessna website and Wikipedia, "amphibious aircraft" is the correct terminology and disctinct from "seaplanes" that can only land and take off in water if it doesn't have amphibious attachments in addition to the floaters. It could be they used seaplane interchangeably with amphibious airplanes in the poster, but there is a technical distinction, if one wanted to be technical about it.

The orig picture, the dark tiny black wheels is easily missed on a smartphone screen without blowing it up and pixel peeping. The wheels werent evident. The letter SEAPLANE is in gigantic fonts compared to the dots black wheels, mostly covered in water.

I've done more than a little flying, and am wondering how you configure that aircraft for flaring without knocking the floats off.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 10:08 AM

So my question remains. Are seaplanes without wheel attachment allowed to fly over land? Cuz they cant land on runaways in case of emergency. I know they can fly over land, but are they allowed to?

Yes they are. No restrictions. Just the same as land planes are allowed to fly over water. A  seaplane can make an off field landing just like a land plane and may even be better off. It could also land on a runway in an emergency but I would choose grass, less damage.  



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:12 AM

A mate used it a couple of weeks ago to get to Manila to fly back to the us. He reported how quick and cheap it was


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:55 PM

The plane i saw has small wheels to drag up a ramp  looked a bit doubtful for a runway landing, pretty sure just for removal to a hard for storage, still an amphibian technically


Also I checked booking small luggage maybe only 15kg



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:16 AM

So my question remains. Are seaplanes without wheel attachment allowed to fly over land? Cuz they cant land on runaways in case of emergency. I know they can fly over land, but are they allowed to?


Yes they can and do fly over land DA, but land in the water. See pictures in my post here from last NYE. We flew over southern Luzon and across the Batangas Channel to PG... Fun trip, I'd fly Air Juan anytime they run a special...

You need to be at their facilities 30 minutes prior to take-off for check in and security screening. Easiest way to fly short of owning your own plane...
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 06:01 AM

The plane i saw has small wheels to drag up a ramp  looked a bit doubtful for a runway landing, pretty sure just for removal to a hard for storage, still an amphibian technically


Also I checked booking small luggage maybe only 15kg

these planes that Air Juan have are full capable of landing on a runway. The main wheels retract into the floats for water landings and are extented for land. There are two smaller wheels at the front of each float. These partialy retract to keep them out of the water. The are free truning so steering is done by the brakes. They are a bit trickier to land on a hard surface but by far the most dangerous scenarion ia landing on the water with the wheels extended. You may be referring to the one of the seaplanes at Subic Seaplanes facility. Some of these are water only and use a "dolly" to pull it out of the water for storage.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 08:50 PM

my apologies for attacking you Darkacre, completely unintended just shooting my mouth off without thinking.


For the record:

"Amphibious" adjective "related to, living in or suited for both land and water"

"Amphibian" noun "an airplane designed to take off from or land on either land or water. (Merriam Webster)

Lets just call it an "Amphib" and be done with the biology and English lessons .......Lol


Hmmm. I misuse the language on a regular basis. For example, my college application essay started with the sentence, "Travel."

Yes, you can not have one word sentences.

I did, anyway. If the usage is correct, fine. If the usage is incorrect, I still do not see the big deal. The idea was clearly expressed.

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Posted 30 May 2017 - 11:14 AM

Current flight schedules for Air Juan, both seaplane and landplanes...

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